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Everything posted by aesmith

  1. That's great. Its a shame it can't be relied on, I mean you can't buy a Seiko quartz and be confident that it will perform to that standard, as they only guarantee +/-15 seconds a month. Ok maybe nobody "needs" that sort of long term accuracy, but it would be pretty offensive to be told that after you've splashed out for an expensive watch. On that basis nobody "needs" a gold watch or a nice fancy looking diver, but if the bezel fell off or the complications stopped working you'd probably not just accept being told you didn't "need" them.
  2. In the UK it varies depending on whether you're selling to a consumer or to a business. From Trading Standards guidance ...
  3. Is that all you do, set twice per year? A Tag quartz could be more than 30 minutes out in 6 months. I suppose that answers my question, if watch enthusiasts don't care about accuracy then maybe there is no market and no need for progress. I still find it a bit odd, why do people choose high priced quartz rather than mechanical, if not for long term timekeeping?
  4. The host, RLT Watches, has some good options. See the link top left of the screen "RLT Watches Sales Site"
  5. Cheers, I like that idea as it also means I can choose a reasonable quality magnifier. Bingo ... that Bergeon part number comes up on Cousins which is great because I need to order some clock parts from them anyway.
  6. Reply back from Tag Heuer ... "I can confirm that the tolerance for a Quartz model is -1 +11 seconds per day (At point of sale and after having a service)" I find that hard to believe, can they really mean per day?
  7. Cheers, Wikipedia (for what that's worth) and most suppliers seem to use "Loupe" as a generic term for a magnifier. Neither Cousins nor A G Thomas seem to have what I want, but I think I have found what I want. The supplier ("TickinTime World Of Watch Tools") calls it a "Head Band Loupe", although if you search for that name most hits turn up super expensive medical equipment. From another watch supplies house so hopefully not complete rubbish. I also found an amazing site dedicated to loupes (all except the sort I want), if anyone's interested they are caller "The Loupe Store". NOTE - I wrote all this before checking and finding that direct links are prohibited, so I've taken them out replacing them with supplier names. Hopefully that's acceptable. I would rather have shown a picture. Tony S
  8. Looking at their web site, watchfinder looks to be more like a broker or middleman rather than a dealer as such. For example they sell Tissot but they're not listed on Tissot's web site as an authorised reseller.
  9. I'm not sure what OCD is, but I can well believe I'm suffering from it. Its a good question though, and the answer is that I'm not looking for accuracy in itself, what I'm looking for is freedom from the hassle of having to reset the watch every few days or weeks. Ideally it would not need setting other than at the GMT/BST changeovers. I think, to be honest its a matter of principle as well. To me there's something wrong with paying more for a watch, and getting no more (or even less) quality in its primary purpose. I don't mind resetting a mechanical watch, that's part of the game. However, speaking very roughly I would expect a higher quality mechanical movement will keep better time than a low quality one.
  10. Hi, I'm looking for some sort of hands-free lens that I can use for close up work. I'm struggling with the technical terms, for example I always thought a "Loupe" was the thing you stuck in your eye, but I see that its also used for folding hand lenses (what I'd call a "Hand lens"). I think the ideal would be what that bloke's wearing here, so it can be pushed aside when not needed. What would you call that, and where would they be sold? Thanks, Tony S
  11. Were you thinking of any particular make? In general the makers that I have seen who quote tolerances for quartz timekeeping just quote a single figure applicable to all their quartz models. The fact that some cheap watches keep pretty good time shows that its not an issue of component stability or quality, but one of adjustment or selection. In fact the best timekeeper for £150 would be to buy 10 cheap watches and keep the best one. Clearly Omega etc could do the equivalent with the timekeeping electronics, with only a trivial effect on the final price. Seiko 8F56 sounds good, but I don't think any models with that movement are offered in the UK. Worth a look though. By the way, honourable mention to Dreyfuss. When I asked them what accuracy they'd guarantee they replied "The expected tolerance of an automatic timepiece is +/- 20/30 seconds a day. With reference to a quartz model, this should keep perfect time." Perfect time! Can't say fairer than that, but I wonder if they'd really accept a warranty return on a watch that's out by 5 sec/month. Regarding other makes, it would be sickening to splash out on a high end watch only to find it keeps worse time than my cheapie, with no come-back. Especially if it was slow which is much more of a pain to reset.
  12. Do you think that was the luck of the draw, or typical of that range?
  13. Hi, I've been turned off quartz a little recently, but it would probably still make sense for my day to day watch. One thing that's been bugging me is why watches in the say £150-£1500 mark should have such a poor level of accuracy. If you can get a £12.99 Lorus like my "emergency watch" that runs to within a couple of seconds a month, then why should someone who's shelled out for an Omega be expected to accept -15 or +21 seconds per month? Is true accuracy not high on peoples list of requirements? I don't fully believe that's always the case, for example on another forum there's a long thread of people comparing accuracy of their own Tissot watches, and deploring the few that aren't within a few seconds a month. How they got those accurate watches they don't say, as Tissot also only guarantees -0.5/+0.7 per day so presumable Tissot wouldn't accept a warranty return for a watch that's within those limits. My point is that those people do care, and expect that by choosing a decent make they get decent performance. I'd be interested in peoples thoughts. I understand that there are some high-accuracy special quartz model ranges, but I am referring to the industry in general where it seems that there's no particular drive to get the best performance from the technology in use. Tony S
  14. Cheers, I don't doubt that the 8215 is 21,600bph, there's plenty of documentation to confirm including reference manuals on Citizen's web site. My watch has the indirect second hand symptom as described, and as looking through the display back I can't see any physical difference between mine and the photos of 8215s. Its just this beat thing puzzling me, watching the second hand through a lens I can count the steps one-two-three-four and it stays in phase with the seconds marks all the way round. What I'm wondering is if its actually 28,800bph and I'm seeing every other beat. Some of the smaller Miyotas are 28,800. I was even looking on Youtube but all the videos showing movements in motion are overlaid with pop music so you can't hear the beat.
  15. Thanks Jezz. What does the beat on your watch look or sound like? As I say, mine definitely looks as if it moves four steps per second when I watch the second hand with a lens. I guess possibly that could be every other beat, although it doesn't look like it. I really struggle to see how it could be 3 or 6 steps per second like the Miyota 8215, but I can't see any physical differences between my movement and the pictures. It just doesn't make sense.
  16. Remember it counts as sold, so you can leave him stinky feedback as well ....
  17. It seems a bit vague, if you ask Royal Mail you get a different answer from asking at the counter. Their written definition is ..
  18. That's bang out of order, and specifically breaks Ebay's rules for selling .. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/selling-practices.html#5 Correct, and for example if he'd failed to use the correct service or didn't have suitable proof of posting or evidence of value, then none of those are your responsibility. For example the watch might fall within their definition of a "valuable" in which case its not covered unless he used special delivery. However you've done the right think opening the case, the seller is given 10 days to respond and if he gives a full refund (including your postage) then Ebay will close the case (I've just been through that process, nothing to do with watches). If he doesn't respond then you have around 7 days after that to ask Ebay to handle the claim for you. Good luck ....
  19. Liking that one, is it a re-issue? I picked it up second-hand, but its clearly modern with Miyota movement and display back.
  20. Is there a price if you're showing the correct date ?
  21. Cheers guys. I was hoping to nudge the adjuster a little, see if I can get it running a bit better than the +10 sec per day that I have at the moment. However I'll take your cautions on board, and won't have at it until I have the right facilities, like some form of non-marking fixture for pressing the back on.
  22. Cheers. I'll try to resist, but the advice to use the proper tool is good as well. The consensus seems to be that its not screw on? Thanks.
  23. Hi, I've only been wearing my new-to-me watch for less than a week, and the urge to open the back is starting to get the better of me. I think it should unscrew, but thought it would be as well to ask before exerting any pressure. Here's a general view of the back ... And a couple of close-ups showing the join. There are small flats by the lugs and by the crown, but not opposite the crown. Any ideas? I think the knurling may be just decorative, as it also runs round the bezel. Finally of course, I can't resist posting the face of my new toy. Its a Rotary automatic, and think it must be quite modern given the Japanese movement, but I have no history. Thanks in advance, Tony S
  24. Seriously, what areas are Rolex higher quality than Omega? Not a Troll, I've often wondered what that price difference pays for right across the spectrum of watches. Although I must say I'm a bit surprised that an Omega is looked down on as a cheap alternative.
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