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spinynorman last won the day on November 10 2020

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  1. Sadly @Always"watching", Mikrolisk sent you off on a bit of a wild goose chase. Hans Waldmann of Aesch did register "Zorba" for watches and jewelry on 28th Jan 1967. However, the registration was cancelled on 1st June the same year, at the request of the trademark holder. Just for general interest, since it seems unlikely Waldmann was responsible for any of the watches you've found, Uhrenfabrik Waldmann A.G. was formed in Basel in Feb 1961 with Hans Waldmann of Basel as President and Werner Tschudin, from Lupsingen as director. In March 1966 another company was created: Uhrenfabrik Tschudin & Waldmann A.G., described as "formerly of Basel", the directors now being Werner Tschudin as President and Hans Waldmann (from Basel, now in Aesch) as Vice President. In 1968 Uhrenfabrik Tschudin & Waldmann was renamed Wilson Watch Uhrenfabrik W. Tschudin AG. "Zorba", however, was registered in Hans Waldmann's name only, not the company. There was a French trademark "Zorba" registered in 2007, for watches among other products, by Philippe Mornand, but I have no idea who that was. The only German sources I have don't list "Zorba" at all.
  2. Secretary, desk, memo? What is this, a 1970s timewarp? Funny story though. Don't think I'd ever noticed that either. It's on Lac Léman as well, how confusing.
  3. I went into Currys recently and spent a long time looking at their stock of watch winders, till one of the muppets came and asked me why I was staring at an empty shelf. I was actually looking for a replacement for our Blueray player, but they didn't have any of those either, because everyone streams stuff now, apparently. Don't actually know where I'd go to buy a dvd either. I expect Smiths has a few of the latest "blockbusters", but really don't want any of those.
  4. I sent a watch winder back to Amazon on the 17th. RM tracking says they received it on the 20th. Amazon's return tracking says they haven't got it. Customer services bot admitted they do have it, but the refund won't go through till the end of the month. That's the "faster" refund to Amazon account balance too. I used to think they were quite good at such things.
  5. To save you the trouble, 925 is sterling silver, which from the title of your post I assume you know. X is the foreign silver assay mark for Edinburgh and Y would indicate 1929. The hallmark pictured below is from a Charles Rennie Mackintosh bracelet advertised at heaton-house.co.uk, the HO not being relevant to your watch. 'DS' is most likely the makers or sponsors mark. http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk lists 'DS' as seen on an Edinburgh assayed imported watch case in 1930, but the name associated with the mark isn't known. Philip T. Priestley's authoritative work on watch case hallmarks doesn't list a 'DS' for Edinburgh, but also says there is little surviving documentation for that assay office.
  6. I wasn't sure if the identity of "S&S" is known to @Ivo Glenister or not, but I looked it up in Swiss commercial records and there is a maker's mark "S&S" registered to Saunders, Shepherd & Co Ltd, of London, in June 1948. They are listed as makers of jewellery. According to Graces Guide, the business goes back to 1869 in Fetter Lane and later Bartlett's Passage, London. It became a limited company in 1916 and in 1921 was awarded a patent for a clasp to attach an expanding bracelet to a watch. In 1959 they bought W.H. Wilmott in Birmingham, which made "Gold Expanding Bracelets for Watches. Gold Chains, Alberts, Dress Chains, Necklets, Guards, Bracelets, etc." Saunders, Shepherd & Co doesn't appear to have been well known for watches, but in Nov 1963 the Horological Journal of the BHI said Saunders, Shepherd & Co exhibited at the Watch & Jewellery Trade Fair, showing "The Buckingham Watch, a men's extra large square model" which was "very slim and shaped to the wrist." So it seems they were wholesalers of watches, alongside their other activities. The Shepherd family was active in the BHI, J.F.H Shepherd becoming Chairman in 1897 and W.S. Shepherd being elected to the committee in 1960.
  7. All very intriguing. Regarding @Always"watching"'s Eureka Lever pocket watch, "Eureka" was a trademark that Rotherhams acquired in 1926 when they bought the Electa factory in La Chaux-de-Fonds. See https://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/rotherham.php and search "Eureka" for the relevant section. Mikrolisk has many other references to "Eureka" however. http://www.mikrolisk.de/show.php?site=280&suchwort=Eureka&searchWhere=all#sucheMarker
  8. What is the size of a watch anyway? The watch I'm wearing is 40mm on the 10-4 diagonal, 38mm across at (and excluding) the crown, 44m corner to corner and 37mm straight down from the midpoints between the lugs. Not small, but not that big either.
  9. This all seems a bit strange to me, like asking what's the narrowest tie I would wear. In the 70s it was probably 4 inches at the widest point, but I wouldn't do that now. Okay, I only wear them at all for weddings and funerals anyway, but the fashion has changed towards narrower ties again. If it was anything at all to do with the width of my gut, I'd have started small and got progressively wider.
  10. Most of my watches are around 34mm, which seems fine to me. I also have two 31mm Rolex Precision dress watches, with 16mm lugs, so they're small, but they were sold as men's watches at the time, so it doesn't bother me too much. I recently bought a Certina DS First which is 42mm and seemed huge when I first put it on, but I've got used to it and it's my most worn watch over the last few weeks. So, I don't get hung up on size, it is what it is.
  11. I've obviously been on this thread before, as I had likes on quite a few of the pictures, just been through and filled in a few gaps on the last two pages though. Also never got round to posting my only Omega here. It's a BL162.5422, according to the serial number made in 1974, but I have the receipt made out to "Hesketh Racing" on 31st Jan 1978. Hesketh Racing was the brainchild of Lord Alexander Hesketh and gave James Hunt his start in Formula One. The watch is inscribed to Albert Maycock from the Hesketh family and I don't know if he was an employee of the racing team or of the Hesketh estate. It was presented in Feb 1978, the year that Hesketh Racing finally folded. I have the original leather strap, but it's very worn, so this is a very similar Hirsch replacement, to which I have transferred the Omega buckle.
  12. Novice: "It seems so simple to make the hands of a quartz watch hit all the markers. And, if it hits 9 of them, how can it miss the other three?" Master: "Get out of here, you nincompoop!"
  13. I will support @Eaglegale in advocating mediocre watches. Mediocre as in, not by very well-known high end brands, vintage, unfashionable and well used - not abused hopefully, but you can't discount it as a possibility. The well-known brands all have well-documented histories and there's not much to know about them that can't be found in a book or a simple Google search. Sure there are controversies and disagreements, but those are well-known too and the arguments gone over many times. The makers of Mediocre Watches - that would have been unexceptional even when they were first sold - also have histories, but they're usually hidden and, if known at all, are often misunderstood. The record can often be put somewhat straight if you know where to look. They are the watches that were worn by the ordinary Joe in the street, which includes previous generations of our families, and it would be a shame, I think, if they all ended up as scrap. They're generally cheapish to buy, but increasingly expensive and difficult to maintain, so you have to bear that in mind. I do have one or two older Rolex, Omega and Longines, but it's the likes of Allaine, Talis and vintage Mondaine I find most interesting.
  14. It is the same as Punch's "Advice to persons about to marry - DON'T!"
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