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What are the downsides to WISery ?    It can’t all be plain sailing, what are the hard bits for you.

For Me

Enough is never enough.

A sometimes misplaced fondness for useless cheapies ( ok Bond stop grinning).

A predilection for buying watches I won’t bond with.  Why do they look different online but more particularly in the jewellers?

An inability to downsize.

What are WISery Downs for you :whistle:

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yeh probably the fact prices have gone a bit daft...i remember Roy saying a while back that a while back before that you could get rolex dj's for example for £150 quid. In fact I think he said at one point you couldn't give them away (paraphrased). What are they now? £1,500? I have a friend with a Rolex Sub who was offered £1,800 quid for it by a prominent on line London retailer. So its not the enthusiasts like us who are driving up prices. Ok ok we can probably afford them but some how for me at least having something thats so valuable about my person even withstanding insurance some how negates a bit of the fun. Thats a personal view as i'm clumsy likely to break them lose them etc. So the escalation in prices has a direct and adverse impact on my carefree fun...why oh why can't they be like cars? I've got what 300 grands worth of motors on the drive none of them much over 10 years old all totally reliable all great fun and combined they cost me what 13 grand?...Had I paid a lot lot more I doubt i'd enjoy them as much...I'd still appreciate them as much and vis a vis as with the watches above...but enjoy them as much no. I think the internet age and central london prices have sent things a bit crazy so as borrowed money...everyone seems to have everything and own nothing...Fun is in bargains...and quality things but not at silly prices. I guess we can all have what ever we want at x quid a month and thats brought on silly prices ubiquity and a loss of fun. Not just in watches look at the other things people get ripped off for in the UK like property prices...all on borrowed money. I have a friend who deals in Antiques and buys from France to avoid silly prices here...I have a neighbour whose just bought a holiday home near the Pyrenees for 70k and its lovely...He is buying his furniture when he gets there because what we get sold as a 500 quid oak antique bed, chest wardrobe or whatever is about a fiver down there....All good fun. I guess this butterfly I'm crushing on the wheel of my pragmatism is a plea for a return to reality...We are only making the banks rich on lent repaid interest with these high prices. Bring back the days of the 150 quid dj and lets have more fun with them?  Another example is ':biggrin:classic' car prices...

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Having to explain to others why I spend so much on watches when digital ones are more accurate.

A lot of people simply don’t understand the love for them and when I explain the mechanical epicness, precision engineering, beauty of the movements, materials used and the pleasure it gives me, I just get blank faces and ‘it’s just a watch’. 

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Biggest wisery not getting all my digitals to the exact time each or a few seconds apart even.  Press a wrong button and the seconds reset to "0".  :(  Scrolling through many cities and then missing London and usually it happens twice.  :angry:  Temptation and addiction, when I see a watch I like I research it everywhere and usually bore people around me telling them oh and look for You Tube videos with it.  :yes:

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Seeing temptation in every watch dealers window.   Not having enough money.   Having too many but bring unable to sell any. Wondering why so much cash is tied up in watches.  

Then realising one actually likes ones collection for all its variety and cost so things don't look so bad after all.  

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24 minutes ago, AVO said:

Looking at all the cr@p some people wear (and post photos of on watch fora)

Dull old world if we all conform to one standard, in most things :thumbsup:

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7 hours ago, RWP said:

What are WISery Downs for you

Realising that I have just bought something I should have bought ten years ago.

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2 hours ago, AVO said:

Looking at all the cr@p some people wear (and post photos of on watch fora)

Agreed.

I sometimes think there is a confusion with cost and quality.  I have many vintage watches many of which were inexpensive.  They are interesting because of their historical significance, movement, case material or simply the history of the watch, some are engraved on the back from thirty years ago or more.  There is a world of difference between that and some bit part Chinese quartz watch from the local high street store. 

There is a thread on problems with TWF and this is perhaps the major shift I have seen.  Several years ago it was far more common to find micro brands, interesting vintage stuff even interesting Russian and Chinese watch companies that seems to have been replaced by dross in the cheap seats and what £500 parts bin watch from China cased up and shipped to Switzerland to be classed as Swiss made can I buy from H Samuels?

Other than that.

Endless "Rolex price rise" threads.  I love Rolex but they are 3 handed well made watches they are NOT haute horologerie and waiting 12 months for a 3 handed divers watch or worse still paying 1k over list price for a Daytona seriously???? 

 

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Watches that I really like, but will never buy. Like @Scottwatch's Franck Muller. No criticism of the watch whatsoever. :)

57 minutes ago, ZenArcade said:

even interesting Russian and Chinese watch companies

There always was a lot of interesting posts in the past, especially Russian stuff, but this has all but disappeared, as have the posters, and not only from this forum either. General apathy perhaps, the stuff is still out there to buy.

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19 minutes ago, WRENCH said:

Watches that I really like, but will never buy. Like @Scottwatch's Franck Muller. No criticism of the watch whatsoever. :)

There always was a lot of interesting posts in the past, especially Russian stuff, but this has all but disappeared, as have the posters, and not only from this forum either. General apathy perhaps, the stuff is still out there to buy.

It may in part be because of the restrictions on parts after Poljot packed in Strela for example started to sky rocket.  A simple Poljot chronograph could have been had for £100 and a Strela for about £250 look at the prices now I do think some dealers are shooting themselves in the foot with their over inflated prices.  Still, look hard enough and a Poljot can still be found for decent money and there are still plenty of Molnija movements out there in inexpensive watches and pocket watches I would rather see one of those than some dross from Argos any day of the week.  A Buran chronograph was about £50 rising to £150 God knows what they are going for now but they had the Poljot movement in them.

There used to be good stuff on WUS on Chinese watch companies such as Shanghai and Beijing where has all that discussion gone? There is a Chinese company that was part of their space program yet all that seems to be posted is the latest Parnis IWC/Omega/Rolex knock off

Don't see anything of Agat watch company either they have a few good stopwatches and pocket watches as well as an authentic reproduction of a Russian divers watch and hand wind watch.

I agree its not just this forum its across the board.  I am frankly sick and tired of the endless "Waiting for my Rolex sub from my Ad" Thread.  Yes we get it, ISA's are dross these days and you are desperate for something you think you can make a bit of quick cash on hence your endless "When is the latest Rolex price rise" Threads but for the love of God give it a rest!

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Self proclaimed so called wis experts who with a quick bit of google are exposed as tinternet charlatans who really know f@ck all about f@ck all.

There have been a few passed by here

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24 minutes ago, BondandBigM said:

Self proclaimed so called wis experts who with a quick bit of google are exposed as tinternet charlatans who really know f@ck all about f@ck all.

There have been a few passed by here

:laugh: :laugh:

Had a conversation with an AD/CEO of IWC last week and.......:laugh:

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There's always another grail watch out there.... (Though I seem to have come to the end with acquisition of homages to vintage Rollie 6538 adn 6542 models.) Still in love with the old grail, but happy to own it and now lusting for something else... Other people call it "obsession." (cue Annie Lennox)

Oh, and the other WIS who like peeing on small brands or other people's tastes. On WUS, there is a band of idiots who continually follow the Mk II forum, making wise acre remarks about long waits for project watches (which are custom watches, designed from the start by plank owner investors), but have never held or owned one. Some have even been banned for repeated behavior that his proscribed from the sponsored forum. ... I don't get it! :huh:  Why waste your time in snarking and sniping at a brand you don't want to own? It must be ... an obsession. Or sport? 

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5 hours ago, ZenArcade said:

  Still, look hard enough and a Poljot can still be found for decent money

Surprisingly there are two on the sales section very reasonably priced that haven't shifted. And yes, I've been reading on the Chinese "space" watch,so maybe I'm guilty of apathy by not sharing.

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Waste of money on an object I already own several of, in reality, and only wear one at a time. It's an addiction. My mind says no more, sell all but one, stop being an idiot and save more money. My heart says... More More More, all of them now!!!!!!

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Here's one you probably recognize. I was watching Michael Mann's The Insider in a theater in 1999ish, and admiring the cool nouveau safari jacket/parka that Al Pacino is wearing in the beginning, and then later in a scene in Berkeley or NYC. Then I see the pocket on the back. :huh:  Realize the costumer had used a Willis & Geiger Summer Field Parka, with the color bleached a little, the very same jacket I had draped on the seat in front of me at the Rafael Theater in San Rafael. Cool. :clap:

I'm watching episodes of Sherlock on streaming, and from time to time I see ... my car. Well, a silver Honda Euro Accord, the CL9, the same that I drive here rebadged as an Acura TSX (I took off the two extraneous badges, though). Seeing one's own car in a movie or telly show is startling, i'n' it? 

From time to time I see a film with characters getting on or off a midsize corporate jet, and my sixth sense kicks in, and I think, "Wait, I know that plane." Yep, sure, it's a Falcon 20, what I spent some 1200 flight hours flying in, pre- and post-flighting, not to mention probably twice as many hours working in and around. Kind of like seeing your own bedroom, you just know it on sight. 

I was watching Chance with Hugh Laurie (one of your national treasures, amirite?) on Hulu, it takes place in my hometown of San Francisco. Seeing locations familiar to me is nothing new when you grew up in the old part of the city. But there's a scene in a cafe and I instantly felt "at home." Yep, Mario's Bohemian Cigar Store Cafe at 566 Columbus Ave, 2 blocks from home. Spent many hours there. Same when watching Bullitt with Steve McQueen, I'd never noticed before the blu-ray that the signature car chase goes right past the North Beach Public Library branch on Mason St a block from home, then guns into action on Chestnut at Columbus, in front of Bimbo's 365, my own street. 

 

... YOu know where we're headed. You're watching a movie or tv show at home. You stop the film. You rewind. You hoot with glee that you recognize a watch a character is wearing, or you recognize your own watch on the wrist of a character. Those around you are confounded. Who cares? How could you possibly have recognized it? It's like some form of dementia. That happened to me when watching Commando with Schwarzenegger. The gag watch for closeups was a mockup with digital countdown timer (the real Seiko H558 didn't do that), but the watch he wore for most of that film, and in Raw Deal, and in Predator, was the same watch I bought at the USCG TraCen Cape May post exchange store when I graduated from Basic Training, and wore throughout my career as my primary work watch.  I dont' think other aficionados experience this, well car nuts probably do, but ... anyone else? I doubt it. "It's a WIS thing, you wouldn't understand." 

 

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On 09/12/2017 at 00:11, ZenArcade said:

Agreed.

I sometimes think there is a confusion with cost and quality.  I have many vintage watches many of which were inexpensive.  They are interesting because of their historical significance, movement, case material or simply the history of the watch, some are engraved on the back from thirty years ago or more.  There is a world of difference between that and some bit part Chinese quartz watch from the local high street store. 

There is a thread on problems with TWF and this is perhaps the major shift I have seen.  Several years ago it was far more common to find micro brands, interesting vintage stuff even interesting Russian and Chinese watch companies that seems to have been replaced by dross in the cheap seats and what £500 parts bin watch from China cased up and shipped to Switzerland to be classed as Swiss made can I buy from H Samuels?

Other than that.

Endless "Rolex price rise" threads.  I love Rolex but they are 3 handed well made watches they are NOT haute horologerie and waiting 12 months for a 3 handed divers watch or worse still paying 1k over list price for a Daytona seriously???? 

 

 

On 08/12/2017 at 21:32, AVO said:

Looking at all the cr@p some people wear (and post photos of on watch fora)

Well here we go again people twisting a post to have a go at people who like watches for different reasons. To be brutally honest, had I recently joined the forum with my mixed collection of crap cheap watches and some of a higher quality but not one of the Rolex/Omega/Pratek et al quality and seen these posts then I would probably not have bothered coming on any more. However, I have been here long enough to know there are some top people on here who accept the choice of others, who revel in the ownership of something slightly off the wall (crap) sometimes, who have a mixture of different brands, countries of origin and type, people who collect watches because they like watches. I am not going to have a direct go back at AVO and Zenarcade because that would give it credence. Happy here to know that this Xmas I will receive a watch or maybe two chosen by my wife, not because it is a brand of high quality but one she knows I will like. I will get great pleasure from receiving the watch and she will get great pleasure for the same reason. I will post pictures of them on here because that's what people do. If some people would prefer I will preface the post with a "crap watch incoming" warning and they can preface theirs with a "superior watch arriving" warning.

 

Rant over

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