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Hi, never posted on a forum, currently have a g shock mudmaster, and decided to put my toe into a luxury watch budget 3500, my wrist size is a touch over 8 inch, I am torn between a Breitling super ocean heritage 46mm in blue, ideally with chronograph or the 44mm Seamaster chronograph black dial. Prices seem to be all over the place which I don’t understand and I just need help.

 

which one is the right one, what to look for as it seems regardless of the year of a watch the prices are different, example Seamaster at goldsmith is 3900 new, yet a 2018 pre owned is still 3600? ? ? 
 

I am looking at pre owned 

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The Seamaster chrono is often in sales , I have seen those recently new at 30% discount.

I would not advise buying the Breilting pre-owned if you go for that one, again it can be got at 25% discount from a Broker , new ,,,,

Personally I would not buy either of those in Chrono version simply because the regular dialled versions are so nice. For Chronograph I would look to another watch , but that's just me.

 

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A relative bought a A13313161C1A1 44 mm Breitling SO Heritage chronograph in blue, having seen it in real life I was quite impressed, pictures don't do them justice in my opinion. It's the Breitling caliber 13 chronograph which is cheaper as it is is based on the well-known ETA Valjoux 7750 movement. He has an 8 inch wrist and it wears well. 

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But the same watch, example Seamaster 300, chronograph in black or blue. Now I’m most places at 3900, Ernest Jones has them in the sale at 3200, all sold yet a preowned 2019/2018 still at 3600, they are still available at 3900 so why so little off, is it just me expecting too much or am I looking to buy a preowned when prices are up?

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I had a mechanical seamaster chrono once and didn't get on with it due to it being a heavy lump of a thing I didn't find it comfortable.  Though with a wrist 3/4 inch smaller than yours maybe you won't find it so. 

The speedmaster is good but be aware its not waterproof and is a manual winder. 

I am not a big fan of Breitling, so my preference would be towards Omega but I did quite like the Chronomat that I once owned. 

Personally I would ignore suggestions of Hanhart or Tutima and stay more with blue-chip brands...  Zenith El-Primera might be worth consideration since it's an iconic and inventive chrono (the first automatic kind hence the name) though I don't know how it will wear on a bigger wrist. 

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37 minutes ago, Daveyboyz said:

 

Personally I would ignore suggestions of Hanhart or Tutima and stay more with blue-chip brands...  Zenith El-Primera might be worth consideration since it's an iconic and inventive chrono (the first automatic kind hence the name) though I don't know how it will wear on a bigger wrist. 

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Yes what do Tutima know about watches with their own in house Glashutte movements or Hanhart with their history:laugh:

By that blue chip Zenith and enjoy the two grand bath you are about to take:laugh:

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Hi guys, I appreciate everyone’s advice, it’s what is the best large watch for 3500, preowned liking the Breitling and Omega, but what is the right watch and are there others, I’m no watch guru so this specialist watches are lost on me, sadly and probably unpopular is the aesthetics and resale value, and what would look the best on a 8 inch wrist, cheers

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If you are coming from a G-shock and thinking of spending £3500 on something different but are not sure what you want, I'd say buy something like this Seiko ssc147 for £145 (in the sale at Creation Watches) and see if you get on with it.  If you do like it then you'll have a pretty indestructible spare for when you don't want to risk your nice watch; and if you don't you'll be able to sell it on or give it away without taking too much of a bath. 

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You might also go wild and maybe buy a similarly cheap diver (say a Seiko SKX007) and dress watch (Orient perhaps) for contrast, wear them in rotation for a few weeks, and see how each feels.  That should help you make up your mind as to what you are looking for.

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@Francis Urquhart's advice sounds very sage to me.

G-Shock to £3.5k mechanical in one step is not without its risks. You could easily decide over time that your first instinct purchase was not the perfect choice  --  requiring you to "flip". The watch market is capricious; getting your money back is not guaranteed.

If you start as suggested above, you will be able to get used to the foibles of a mechanical watch (the suggestions are very worthy pieces) without worrying about dinging it (or them). Then, once retail is open again and some normality is restored, you can visit some ADs and fondle the more expensive options.

Just my tuppence-worth.

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Write a list of all the watches mentioned. Wait until ADs open. Go and try them all. When starting out I went to an AD specifically to buy a SMP300, I was adamant it was the one for me, but I tried it on and something didn’t feel right. Just didn’t have a connection to it. So I saved my money. Bought a Seiko SARB033 to fill the gap of a mechanical movement (display case back is awesome even on a cheaper movement). Now a fair few years down the line I’ve added a Tudor Black Bay and got a Submariner Date waiting to collect. Watches that both felt “right” for me when I put them on the wrist.

Try before you buy. Don’t set your heart on a watch til you’ve had it in your hands and worn it. It’s surprising how the watch you think you want may feel different in real life.

Happy hunting.


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Write a list of all the watches mentioned. Wait until ADs open. Go and try them all. When starting out I went to an AD specifically to buy a SMP300, I was adamant it was the one for me, but I tried it on and something didn’t feel right. Just didn’t have a connection to it. So I saved my money. Bought a Seiko SARB033 to fill the gap of a mechanical movement (display case back is awesome even on a cheaper movement). Now a fair few years down the line I’ve added a Tudor Black Bay and got a Submariner Date waiting to collect. Watches that both felt “right” for me when I put them on the wrist.

Try before you buy. Don’t set your heart on a watch til you’ve had it in your hands and worn it. It’s surprising how the watch you think you want may feel different in real life.

Happy hunting.


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Nice choices, but a few things about buying an expensive watch.,

1) Unless you are buying a Rolex or Patek, you WILL lose money in the short to medium term so securing the right deal is crucial. 2nd hand will get you a great deal but be sure it's been serviced to comply with any remaining warranty, alternatively go to a grey dealer or just ask for a discount.

2) A chronograph will have higher running / servicing costs so may not be the ideal introduction to the world of expensive watches.

3) The Breitling has a number of different versions which change the price dramatically. First variable is the strap, the mesh is most expensive with the rubber and then leather being less. (I'd always buy the metal bracelet on a watch - by preference and also cost to change is lower) Second is the movement, there is the cheaper (iirc) 7750 based movement with dials at 6,9,12 and the more expensive, in house, B1 movement with dials at 3,6,9.

I'd also 2nd the above advice of going to a dealers and trying it on. I had a similar experience with lusting after a Tag Heuer Monaco, it was 50, I was 50, money sat in the bank. I tried on both blue versions and the Gulf and just couldn't bring myself to spend that much on that particular watch, I'd happily spend £1800 on a used black version though, which is probably what will happen in a while (the original funds went on different shiny things).

I would say that if you have large wrists and want a luxury watch that will look good in all situations, dress, business or casual, then the 46mm B20 Superocean Heritage (non chronograph) is what I'd recommend, it's about to be replaced with a more retro design that looks nice but loses some of the simplicity and hence elegance meaning it suits casual situations more (all imho). This means that there may be deep discounts from dealers wanting to clear stock space, also some might show up in Breitlings Bicester Village factory outlet at a discount.

Full disclosure here - I bought the Breitling.

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I really appreciate the feedback, I have owned other watches, the old Gucci G and the newer one, the replies are great and I have had a number of Hugo boss watches which I have flipped but these have all been very low end price, I do really like the vintage seiko like the scuba pro, but the sizes are 42mm at a push, not a fan of the newer seiko,s although i recognise the great value for money.
 

I believe I will take the advice of going into stores when they open and trying them on, it is the most sensible thing to do, thank you guys

 

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