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Felix79

Panerai Luminor Due - Real?

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Hi Folks,

My first post here.  I'm an admirer of fine and interesting watches and looking forward to spending plenty of time here chatting timepieces!

In the meantime, I'm considering a second hand Panerai Luminor Due purchase (PAM00906).  I haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but it seems fairly pukka.  I don't really know what to look for with these watches however, apart from the obvious.  The only real trigger for concern is that it is apparently only a year old, and being sold at a fairly keen price.  Perhaps I'm just gazing into the horse's mouth...

Any thoughts or tips in this regard generally?  I have pictures - how do I post them (*goes off to the FAQ...*)?

Cheers,

F

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Lovely looking watch :thumbsup: I'm afraid I'm not expert enough to say whether or not its real - but I wonder if it would be an idea to take it to an Authorised Dealer for them to check it out?

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He apparently has a box of papers to go with, so I'm probably being over cautious, but it's still a lot of money to spend on something which turns out not to be real...

 

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What platform are you buying it through (i.e. eBay, Gumtree, Facebook, Chrono24).

Looks a cracking watch but remember, if it seems too good to be true....

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4 hours ago, Felix79 said:

Any thoughts or tips in this regard generally? 

If it's a private sale be very careful. I'd be looking for an original authorised dealers sales reciept for a start, and give them a call. For the amount involved, I would be collecting in person, and organise, as already mentioned, at my expense, for it to be checked before parting with any cash. It could be a fake, it could also be genuine, but stolen, you don't know.

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I am very much with Steve @WRENCH on this one - take all precautions you can.

As soon as I heard the terms, "Panerai" and "keen price", My heart sank a little bit. Still, if it turns out to be a wise purchase then you have a beautiful watch to show for it; something that is just out of the run of all the major collectible names we know about and discuss so much here on the Forum.:)

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Find the reason as why it’s below market, go with your gut if it doesn’t feel right walk away, that feeling won’t go away. Even meet at a shop which verify it’s authenticity and it’s not stolen. If it’s to good to be true, there will be something, I suppose how much is your piece of mind worth? 

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It's being advertised on a popular local online platform.  I live on a small island, so will be very reassured if it has been bought locally, and might be able to even contact the AD if I deem necessary.

I will have a look and report back!

Obviously any other pointers or thoughts very welcome!

F

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9 hours ago, Felix79 said:

Hi Folks,

My first post here.  I'm an admirer of fine and interesting watches and looking forward to spending plenty of time here chatting timepieces!

In the meantime, I'm considering a second hand Panerai Luminor Due purchase (PAM00906).  I haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but it seems fairly pukka.  I don't really know what to look for with these watches however, apart from the obvious.  The only real trigger for concern is that it is apparently only a year old, and being sold at a fairly keen price.  Perhaps I'm just gazing into the horse's mouth...

Any thoughts or tips in this regard generally?  I have pictures - how do I post them (*goes off to the FAQ...*)?

Cheers,

F

Hi is this the one on Jersey Insight? I live in Jersey and have seen this advertised for quite a few weeks. I would say it was genuine. The price seems about right for a private sale depending which site your comparing to. Ask the seller if he bought it locally, if so it’s got to be Hettich. Good lick anyway. By the way have you checked out the 3 posted on JT today a Speedmaster and Seamaster. Both look good for the money

cheers

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8 hours ago, KAS118 said:

but I wonder if it would be an idea to take it to an Authorised Dealer for them to check it out?

4 hours ago, Nick Parr 1977 said:

Even meet at a shop which verify it’s authenticity and it’s not stolen.

I'm not quite sure in what world you think this would be possible?

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What is JT? 

It’s Alive Jim, i believe if you went to a watch shop which focuses on pre-owned for a fee they would run the serial number and confirm authenticity. 

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28 minutes ago, Nick Parr 1977 said:

What is JT? 

It’s Alive Jim, i believe if you went to a watch shop which focuses on pre-owned for a fee they would run the serial number and confirm authenticity. 

Jersey times/trader ?a local paper ? at a guess ,as it seems they both are fortunate to live on that very beautiful island :yes:

deano

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Buying a hundred quid seiko in these circumstances i could handle. But buying something at that price without knowing the seller, having any come back? And not seeing it before the posty asks you to sign the box? What are these now? 8 grand 9 grand more? I'd choose option 2 and walk through a minefield with the cash blindfold either that or go to a nice shop for one. If its tempting you because its a few grand cheaper than most. And being sold by a bloke on a council house estate in Burnley or the like. Then i would go view it in person with a few burly mates and leave the cash at home just in case. 

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14 hours ago, Jersey1965 said:

Hi is this the one on Jersey Insight? I live in Jersey and have seen this advertised for quite a few weeks. I would say it was genuine. The price seems about right for a private sale depending which site your comparing to. Ask the seller if he bought it locally, if so it’s got to be Hettich. Good lick anyway. By the way have you checked out the 3 posted on JT today a Speedmaster and Seamaster. Both look good for the money

cheers

Yes, indeed!  I thought it seemed good value compared with the few comparables I've seen online.  What would retail have been the year before; c.£5,000?

 

Good to meet another Bean!

 

F

14 hours ago, it'salivejim said:

I'm not quite sure in what world you think this would be possible?

Maybe it's in the nature of the smallish community I live in, but I don't doubt at all that I could ask my local AD to give a view as to authenticity and they would oblige, particularly if the seller was alongside and obviously consenting.  Equally, lots of other non-authorised but nevertheless specialist watch dealers would certainly be happy to help, whether at a cost or for free.  Confirming it's not stolen probably more something for the police, but equally achievable I'm sure.

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2 hours ago, Nigelp said:

Buying a hundred quid seiko in these circumstances i could handle. But buying something at that price without knowing the seller, having any come back? And not seeing it before the posty asks you to sign the box? What are these now? 8 grand 9 grand more? I'd choose option 2 and walk through a minefield with the cash blindfold either that or go to a nice shop for one. If its tempting you because its a few grand cheaper than most. And being sold by a bloke on a council house estate in Burnley or the like. Then i would go view it in person with a few burly mates and leave the cash at home just in case. 

have a little failth in humanity nigel :laugh::laugh::laugh:

deano

 

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10 minutes ago, deano1956 said:

have a little failth in humanity nigel :laugh::laugh::laugh:

deano

 

Yeh right.:laugh: show me a honest man and i will show you a blind choropodist who laughs at defeat. 

Have you ever been up stoops or bleak house in burnley? The alsations walk round in 2s

For safety

Kids get entertainment by setting fire to the family settee on the front street...and the blokes in some of the dole ques wear rolex watches and panerais. Ive never seen one have to make do with a seiko. 

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3 hours ago, Nigelp said:

Buying a hundred quid seiko in these circumstances i could handle. But buying something at that price without knowing the seller, having any come back? And not seeing it before the posty asks you to sign the box? What are these now? 8 grand 9 grand more? I'd choose option 2 and walk through a minefield with the cash blindfold either that or go to a nice shop for one. If its tempting you because its a few grand cheaper than most. And being sold by a bloke on a council house estate in Burnley or the like. Then i would go view it in person with a few burly mates and leave the cash at home just in case. 

My locality means that I'd only realistically be buying face to face, from someone who lives within a thirty minute drive max, and where we'd probably have a number of mutual acquaintances.  His email address appears to be a work address (investment management or similar).  I'd see the watch first of course (which I don't think is quite as valuable as you think, but still a fair wedge to be fair!).

Judging by the photo with the number of other expensive looking watches in the background, my guess is that he doesn't live in a council estate in Burnley.

I absolutely agree that I wouldn't buy this by post on the basis of the photos alone!

F.

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On 24/06/2020 at 11:32, Felix79 said:

Hi Folks,

My first post here.  I'm an admirer of fine and interesting watches and looking forward to spending plenty of time here chatting timepieces!

In the meantime, I'm considering a second hand Panerai Luminor Due purchase (PAM00906).  I haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but it seems fairly pukka.  I don't really know what to look for with these watches however, apart from the obvious.  The only real trigger for concern is that it is apparently only a year old, and being sold at a fairly keen price.  Perhaps I'm just gazing into the horse's mouth...

Any thoughts or tips in this regard generally?  I have pictures - how do I post them (*goes off to the FAQ...*)?

Cheers,

F

Probably a bit more than 5k. Got them on Chrono24 ranged 4200-5800 but most are dealers so you have to take into account sellers fees, warranty and profit so would say 3.5k a good deal. Think we are the only 2 Jersey beans on the forum! Unless there’s any more of you out there?

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1 minute ago, Felix79 said:

My locality means that I'd only realistically be buying face to face, from someone who lives within a thirty minute drive max, and where we'd probably have a number of mutual acquaintances.  His email address appears to be a work address (investment management or similar).  I'd see the watch first of course (which I don't think is quite as valuable as you think, but still a fair wedge to be fair!).

Judging by the photo with the number of other expensive looking watches in the background, my guess is that he doesn't live in a council estate in Burnley.

I absolutely agree that I wouldn't buy this by post on the basis of the photos alone!

F.

Let us know how you go on mate. 

1 minute ago, Jersey1965 said:

Probably a bit more than 5k. Got them on Chrono24 ranged 4200-5800 but most are dealers so you have to take into account sellers fees, warranty and profit so would say 3.5k a good deal. Think we are the only 2 Jersey beans on the forum! Unless there’s any more of you out there?

Im from Burnley. 

Never been to Jersey. 

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heT3MZ9.jpg

 

Probably nothing of course  --  different CNC set-up  --  but, to me, the engraving on the right looks a little less professional than that on the left.

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20 minutes ago, yokel said:

heT3MZ9.jpg

 

Probably nothing of course  --  different CNC set-up  --  but, to me, the engraving on the right looks a little less professional than that on the left.

The lugs look bent too. 

Like its doing the splits for a 28mm squeezing in rather than 24. 

I once had a parnis marine militaire and it was very convincing. It wouldnt take too much to badge one up in one of these 'specialist' factories. Cant help thinking id go to the panerai shop. 

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