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Screwdriver Sets - Looking for Advice


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OK, so the freebie screwdriver set I got from Yema didn't last as long as I hoped (bent a blade of one) - so I'm looking to get myself a decent set.

Mainly going to be used for straps and bracelets etc - so has anyone got any advice/recommendations? 

Currently looking at Bergeon 30080-P05 and 30081-P05 (although I'm not sure exactly what the advantages/disadvantage of each is?).

But has anyone else got any advice, recommendations, views or opinions.

Thanks

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I have two sets for two different work stations

https://www.eternaltools.com/watchmakers-screwdrivers/horotec-6-watchmakers-screwdrivers-set

Horotec, and Bergeon

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/bergeon-stainless-steel-ergonomic-9-pieces-rs

both about £90 (once you sign up to Eternal tools newsletter to get 10% off), but you get 9 screwdrivers with the Bergeon set.  Nothing really to pick between them quality wise

The difference between your sets are one is chrome plated, and one is stainless steel.  But being in a wallet wouldn't suit me, I preferred the stand the larger sets come with

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3 hours ago, scottswatches said:

both about £90

That is the rub for me - Don't get me wrong I love good tools (I've plenty of Bosch blue and a lot of quality hand tools, levels, socket sets and the like) but for me I can't justify £90 on some very specialist tools. I assume Scott that you use them for work as well as pleasure? If I were in that boat, I'd be right up there with you, but being a tinkerer at best with watches a cheaper set has been just fine.

I've got this for if I'm a bit limited https://www.amazon.co.uk/visenta-Interchangeable-Precision-Screwdriver-Eyeglass/dp/B07GYRRMKW used it for taking a MacBook apart, and numerous computer components. Given they are all low torque applications, I've found these fine too and the fit acceptable.

As they say, your mileage may vary. But @KAS118 if you aren't doing too much, have a good think about what you perceive value to usage to be.

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I'm with @scottswatches on this. Buy cheap, buy twice. All through my engineering and carpentry periods, I always found it was better to buy the best as it wouldn't let you down as cheap tools do. Even when I changed careers and went into horticulture, I still found the same was true. Your OP was about screwdrivers. There is a reason good ones are expensive...they have ball bearings under the heads and the blades are made of decent, precision ground steel... cheap Indian/Chinese versions seem to be made of chewing gum and will bend or twist under any sort of pressure. If you're going to work on a cheap £50 watch, then go for the Ebay cheapies. If you're going to open your Seiko/Omega/Rolex etc, then get something decent. 

I also use the Horotec set Scott mentioned...never let me down yet.

@al_kaholik Not sure many are aware of Bosch blue (Professional) and Bosch green (DIY) variants. My Bosch blue SDS drill lasted for 20 years on site and in the workshop before it finally gave up the ghost in a cloud of smoke. New Makita version still going strong after 10 years use, though as I'm retired, it won't get used much now....:(  My Bosch blue 115mm angle grinder is still one of my favourite tools, however...and the all metal gearbox blue jigsaw is still awesome at 28 years old... 

Drill press table.

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I tend to side with @Roger the Dodger point of view. OK I didn't buy the Yema set - but they're cheap and they bent and they were likely to damage the watch (at least its screws) or even cause an injury. In the long run it's actually cheaper to buy quality tools, and more convenient, because you don't have to wait whilst you order replacements. 

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5 hours ago, Roger the Dodger said:

 

@al_kaholik Not sure many are aware of Bosch blue (Professional) and Bosch green (DIY) variants. My Bosch blue SDS drill lasted for 20 years on site and in the workshop before it finally gave up the ghost in a cloud of smoke. New Makita version still going strong after 10 years use, though as I'm retired, it won't get used much now....:(  My Bosch blue 115mm angle grinder is still one of my favourite tools, however...and the all metal gearbox blue jigsaw is still awesome at 28 years old... 

Drill press table.

Worlds apart indeed.

I've a clutch of 10.8v/12v Bosch Professional tools. My favourite is the cordless circular saw. It has no trouble breaking down boards in a carpark if you need to and with carefully measured cuts, I did sink and hob cutouts from both sides on laminate worktops before finishing with the cordless trim router.

If you go to any hire shop, there is a reason a lot of the tools they hire out are Bosch Pro or Hilti.

1 hour ago, KAS118 said:

I tend to side with @Roger the Dodger point of view. OK I didn't buy the Yema set - but they're cheap and they bent and they were likely to damage the watch (at least its screws) or even cause an injury. In the long run it's actually cheaper to buy quality tools, and more convenient, because you don't have to wait whilst you order replacements. 

I do see that, but to me the delta I perceive in value wouldn't be worth while. If you have lots of straps that have screw links or intend to get deep into the watches, buy away. I think I only have one that has screw links = not value in my eyes. Plus I'd never tinker in a watch I cared about that much as I know my limitations.

And as previously discussed, the Bergeon strap tools are worlds apart from cheaper ones, good value.

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34 minutes ago, Dannyboy82 said:

Can the Bergeon screwdrivers be bought individually?

I’d rather build up a collection of decent tools over time but wondered if there was a “chefs knife” of watchmakers screwdrivers that I could buy first.

Cheers,

Dan

Yes, they can - as can the Horotec 

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2 hours ago, Dannyboy82 said:

Can the Bergeon screwdrivers be bought individually?

I’d rather build up a collection of decent tools over time but wondered if there was a “chefs knife” of watchmakers screwdrivers that I could buy first.

Cheers,

Dan

They can, but size is important.  The difference between a 1mm and a 1.2mm screwdriver can be the difference between stripping the head and turning smoothly.  It is a tiny amount of difference until you realise it is 20% bigger.  Always use the largest screwdriver the screwhead will take.

If you buy a 1mm screwdriver you will need a 0.8 or 1.2 for the next job, guaranteed

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I certainly am no watchmaker but here's my take on buying cheap screwdrivers or other tools...  If it breaks when you're using it (& they will) the screwdriver may slip and gouge the movement or even do other damage.  :(

If it is a tenner for the watch, then go ahead and use a cheap screwdriver...

If you are working on a nice watch, use the best quality screwdriver tool you can afford...:yes:

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12 hours ago, scottswatches said:

They can, but size is important.  The difference between a 1mm and a 1.2mm screwdriver can be the difference between stripping the head and turning smoothly.  It is a tiny amount of difference until you realise it is 20% bigger.  Always use the largest screwdriver the screwhead will take.

If you buy a 1mm screwdriver you will need a 0.8 or 1.2 for the next job, guaranteed

Thanks for that Scott.

I was thinking something like this to get me started - 

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/bergeon-stainless-steel-ergonomic-5-pieces

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18 hours ago, Dannyboy82 said:

Thanks for that Scott.

I was thinking something like this to get me started - 

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/bergeon-stainless-steel-ergonomic-5-pieces

I's hate to multiply your doubts but I'd consider these:

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/cousins-swiss-style-stainless-steel-9-pieces-rs?code=S57442

9 blades is a wider range of sizes increasing the chances of a perfect fit.

Google them to read others opinions on using them. 

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5 hours ago, Watch-and-C said:

I's hate to multiply your doubts but I'd consider these:

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/cousins-swiss-style-stainless-steel-9-pieces-rs?code=S57442

9 blades is a wider range of sizes increasing the chances of a perfect fit.

Google them to read others opinions on using them. 

Already ordered the Bergeon set but thanks anyway!

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