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Seiko Pogue - What would you do?


acevans13
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Hi Guys,

I inherited my Grandfathers Seiko 6139-6002, he was gifted it in the early 70’s so I know it’s currently all original.

Unfortunately it’s seen some action as is quit worn, but that means it was well loved!

The Crystal is scratched, the chapter ring and red part of the bezel is faded and the crown is pitted. The case looks like it’s had a couple of knocks here and there as there are a few indentations and the bracelet is on the small side as links removed to fit his wrist.

So now my dilemma: I would really like to get it recommissioned, but know there are a lot of fake parts about.

I’m guessing aftermarket crystals won’t be a problem, but what about the crown and stem...possibly the spring? Are good reproductions out there? (I’m ok with this).

Should I avoid replacing the bezel and chapter ring? - I presume aftermarket exists, but are clearly repro? - as it stands, it shows its history and hasn’t been messed with. I don’t mind patina.

The bracelet: should I just try and source another original link, or should I just get an Uncle Seiko bracelet? Can the original Seiko clasp be fitted to the Uncle Seiko bracelet?

I fully understand this is down to personal preference, but what would you do in this situation?...and what’s the deal with some of the aftermarket parts mentioned? - Are they ok, and if so, where’s the best place to obtain them? I would obviously prefer genuine, but I would assume these are becoming harder to find?

Many thanks,

Andy

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If it's just the crown you need to replace, you can find one here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Old-Stock-SEIKO-6139-6002-PEPSI-Crown-Watch-Replacement-Winding-NOS-Part-P50/184253361953?hash=item2ae65b2f21:g:YxcAAOSwE7Beld5L&pageci=df2cb958-aa6b-4369-a9c3-c63ed0b689ea&redirect=mobile.

The correct one has a dimple at the centre...it should fit directly to your existing stem, and be flush with the case when in the normal position. If you also need the stem, spring and tiny pinion that drives the inner indicator ring, that's a lot harder to find...so pray that yours is good, as replacements are like rocking horse poo. A replacement crystal can be sourced from Cousins UK. It will be a Sternkreuz XMD 330.821 and is a direct replacement. There are plenty of aftermarket bracelets with the correct curved end links available. At the end of the day, it depends on how far you want to go with the restoration. Originality and patina mean a lot to some, while others opt for the NOS look. Aftermarket bezels and dials can be sourced, but if originality is key, you might need to source a donor watch with better parts than yours, though it won't be cheap.

As an aside, you can date yor watch quite accurately from the coded serial number on the caseback. The first number gives the decade, (6139-6002s were made from '69-'78) and the second number reveals the month it was made (1-9 = Jan - Sept, O = October, N = November and D = December). The last 4 digits are  the watch's production run number. For example 571234 would mean a watch made in July 1975, no. 1234....2N4321 would mean a watch made in November 1972, no. 4321. Dates can be important as certain features changed as the years went by, for example, wording on the dial, bracelet shape and case design. The links below might show you what to look for when sourcing parts. Hope this helps somewhat...good luck, they are great watches! :thumbsup:

https://thespringbar.com/blogs/guides/the-seiko-6139-600x-collectors-guide/

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/how-to-buy-a-seiko-6139-600x-chronograph-a-collectors-buying-guide.140803/

 

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My view, replace the crystal, sort out the crown, get it serviced, take off the original bracelet and put it somewhere safe and buy an uncle Seiko.

That way it will still be your grandfather's watch

 

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