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Worst Car You Have Owned or Driven????


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for me ive got to say my 1990 merc 230ce coupe slow and unrelaible. I just did not like it, my dad says his worst was a MK2 Cortina 1600e. 

followed by a 1992 Merc 300se

slow, rusted and drove like a bus after his Jag 3.6 sov. 

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Come on who is going to admit to some of these? We have including the polonez the simca, that dad loved in the mid 70s, and a rover 820se which was crap as youd expect. Should have bought the honda legend.


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1 hour ago, Nigelp said:

Come on who is going to admit to some of these? We have including the polonez the simca, that dad loved in the mid 70s, and a rover 820se which was crap as youd expect. Should have bought the honda legend.


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My first car was a Datsun Sunny, :laugh: Can’t say it was my worst though! That was a 2000 1.4 escort that was just horrendous, slow, rusted heap of horse poo. I had it 4months as I waited on an insurance claim getting sorted, sent it to the scrapyard rather than pass it on it was that bad!

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My brother in law used a Datsun Sunny to carry and tow just about everything when he built his house. Never let him down once. The rust eventually got it. I had a 1973 Marina estate. It was a MOT failure I paid £30 for it in 1982. Welded everything up propper, stuck a 1500cc BMC diesel mated to a Humber Scepter overdrive box in it. 55mph flat out, 0 - 50 in a day. Did loads of mpg though. Painted it with Forth Bridge paint with a roller. Rat Car. Engine came out of one of these.

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Probably the worst car my dad had from what he says was his mk2 cortina, it rained in so he took the carpet out, dried it in the boiler house at work drilled holes in the floor and put the carpet back, the gearbox went so he decided to change it himself and he was trying to get the replacement box in an old cast iron job lead on his back under the car in the front street, after about 5 attempts his arms had got tierd of lifting and he couldnt raise the box of his chest anymore. He must have managed it eventually, but needless to say it got sold pretty fast. 

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19 hours ago, Craftycockney said:

E36 I'm assuming....

Yup!!

Final straw was the head gasket blown, It cost £500 for a friend to do it, I'll bet it would have been at least double that at Sytners :swoon:

 

EDIT- This is the offending machine!

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John..

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2 hours ago, johnbaz said:

Yup!!

Final straw was the head gasket blown, It cost £500 for a friend to do it, I'll bet it would have been at least double that at Sytners :swoon:

 

EDIT- This is the offending machine!

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John..

You sure that is not a 318i? The is had a completely different engine which were pretty bulletproof. 

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1 hour ago, Craftycockney said:

You sure that is not a 318i? The is had a completely different engine which were pretty bulletproof. 

Yep, I'm sure it was!, I know it had a timing chain rather than a belt as the first place I phoned asked which it was said they didn't have the tools and put the phone down pretty sharp!

I had a new water pump and thermostat fitted as my mate said the shaft on the pump was plastic and they siezed then sheared, After he stripped it he said it had done just that, It was a common cause of the gasket failure!

John :)

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On 05/05/2019 at 22:21, WRENCH said:

The worst thing I ever remember was a Dacia Duster Jeep the local vet bought in the 70's. I think he had one day something didn't go wrong.

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Honestly I had not seen this before my suggestion that i thought you probably owned a Dacia yesterday! Its just it one seemed appropriate to compliment your no nonsense utilitarian persona and it turns out you've had one! Sorry it was in such insalubrious predicament. Amazingly when you google the 2 last phrases this appears.

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/6346153.lib-dem-hits-out-at-gents-shut-down/

On 05/05/2019 at 23:45, Roger the Dodger said:

A Morris Marina TC, in exactly the same colour as the one below...'Mustard' I believe the colour was, with a brown vinyl roof covering that kept splitting and tearing. Awful thing. I eventually traded it in PX for a Mk3 Escort. Probably worth a fortune today...

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no wonder you've gone off cars Rog! Should have kept that TR6:laugh:

On 14/05/2019 at 20:20, Craftycockney said:

You sure that is not a 318i? The is had a completely different engine which were pretty bulletproof. 

 

On 13/05/2019 at 21:46, johnbaz said:

BMW318iS

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BMW's are often a bit weak on the head gaskets, its a trait of high compression going right back to the e24 635 and probably before. I don't think there was an e36 318is was there? Or in fact e36 'IS' with any engine, the IS was an e30 run out model as far as i know. The one in the picture looks like an SE not sport the wheels are SE. The only possibility i can think of is the 318i Sport which wasnt strictly speaking an 'IS' as far as i know and they looked like this. For example with the sport bumpers, wheels were a mixture and so were engines. If the one in the pic was a 4 cylinder it was likely as not the 316i with the 1800 engine. But it has the se not sport trim. But thats as an aside. I'm with you on the fact that BMW head gaskets can be fragile and especially so in the bigger blocks and older cars. In fact with the e24 the reduced the cc after boring to 3.5 from 3.3 against the advice of the M sport division. I know i spent 2 weeks doing the head gasket, having all the valves re ground and having the head clocked and skimmed when my 635 blew its top when i was 18. 

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2 hours ago, Nigelp said:

Honestly I had not seen this before my suggestion that i thought you probably owned a Dacia yesterday! Its just it one seemed appropriate to compliment your no nonsense utilitarian persona and it turns out you've had one! Sorry it was in such insalubrious predicament. Amazingly when you google the 2 last phrases this appears.

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/6346153.lib-dem-hits-out-at-gents-shut-down/

no wonder you've gone off cars Rog! Should have kept that TR6:laugh:

 

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BMW's are often a bit weak on the head gaskets, its a trait of high compression going right back to the e24 635 and probably before. I don't think there was an e36 318is was there? Or in fact e36 'IS' with any engine, the IS was an e30 run out model as far as i know. The one in the picture looks like an SE not sport the wheels are SE. The only possibility i can think of is the 318i Sport which wasnt strictly speaking an 'IS' as far as i know and they looked like this. For example with the sport bumpers, wheels were a mixture and so were engines. If the one in the pic was a 4 cylinder it was likely as not the 316i with the 1800 engine. But it has the se not sport trim. But thats as an aside. I'm with you on the fact that BMW head gaskets can be fragile and especially so in the bigger blocks and older cars. In fact with the e24 the reduced the cc after boring to 3.5 from 3.3 against the advice of the M sport division. I know i spent 2 weeks doing the head gasket, having all the valves re ground and having the head clocked and skimmed when my 635 blew its top when i was 18. 

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Could it have been an e34 (Was there such a thing?) I don't have any of the literature as I let it all go with the car!!, I bought it as an iS, Maybe i was had by being told this but I thought i'd seen it on the paperwork! 

 

 

John :)

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5 minutes ago, johnbaz said:

Could it have been an e34 (Was there such a thing?) I don't have any of the literature as I let it all go with the car!!, I bought it as an iS, Maybe i was had by being told this but I thought i'd seen it on the paperwork! 

 

 

John :)

Going back to your picture John, its definitely an e36 but it is a SE not sport, looking at the sills and bumpers its a later one with colour coding rather than grey bottoms to the sills and bumpers. I'd put it on about a 1996 to 1998? Rather than the early 94/5 cars. The v5 would be the only think that would confirm the model against the chassis number. It looks a nice tidy car, shame it was unrelaible for you. Its got the newer type of rear head rests and steering wheel, if i only had the picture to go off and nothing else and not being able to see the tail pipes double or single. It could be anything from a 316i to a 328i from the side view but definitely an SE. I don't think there was an e36 saloon sport only coupe. There was an e36 m3 saloon, but not sport unless anyone knows otherwise?

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6 hours ago, Nigelp said:

Honestly I had not seen this before my suggestion that i thought you probably owned a Dacia yesterday! Its just it one seemed appropriate to compliment your no nonsense utilitarian persona and it turns out you've had one! Sorry it was in such insalubrious predicament. Amazingly when you google the 2 last phrases this appears.

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/6346153.lib-dem-hits-out-at-gents-shut-down/

no wonder you've gone off cars Rog! Should have kept that TR6:laugh:

 

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BMW's are often a bit weak on the head gaskets, its a trait of high compression going right back to the e24 635 and probably before. I don't think there was an e36 318is was there? Or in fact e36 'IS' with any engine, the IS was an e30 run out model as far as i know. The one in the picture looks like an SE not sport the wheels are SE. The only possibility i can think of is the 318i Sport which wasnt strictly speaking an 'IS' as far as i know and they looked like this. For example with the sport bumpers, wheels were a mixture and so were engines. If the one in the pic was a 4 cylinder it was likely as not the 316i with the 1800 engine. But it has the se not sport trim. But thats as an aside. I'm with you on the fact that BMW head gaskets can be fragile and especially so in the bigger blocks and older cars. In fact with the e24 the reduced the cc after boring to 3.5 from 3.3 against the advice of the M sport division. I know i spent 2 weeks doing the head gasket, having all the valves re ground and having the head clocked and skimmed when my 635 blew its top when i was 18. 

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They made 'is' models in e30 & e36. The engines were revised in the e36 but were still based on the original 1.8 twin cam 16v engines which pushed 140+bhp over the standard 1.8 8v single cam. The  e30 'is' were developed by Mtec division and nicked named the baby m3 due to the 4 pot engines that the M3 were developed with.

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2 hours ago, Craftycockney said:

They made 'is' models in e30 & e36. The engines were revised in the e36 but were still based on the original 1.8 twin cam 16v engines which pushed 140+bhp over the standard 1.8 8v single cam. The  e30 'is' were developed by Mtec division and nicked named the baby m3 due to the 4 pot engines that the M3 were developed with.

Thanks Crafty:thumbsup:

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5 hours ago, Craftycockney said:

They made 'is' models in e30 & e36. The engines were revised in the e36 but were still based on the original 1.8 twin cam 16v engines which pushed 140+bhp over the standard 1.8 8v single cam. The  e30 'is' were developed by Mtec division and nicked named the baby m3 due to the 4 pot engines that the M3 were developed with.

I found another pic! (Two actually but one is rubbish!!)

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When I enlarged this pic a bit there's two pipes side by side (Hard to see!), My lad got me an app on my phone to check registrations, It was last MOT'd in 2102 which is around the time I sold it!

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I can't make out what the badge on the back says!!

 

 

John :)

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1 hour ago, johnbaz said:

I found another pic! (Two actually but one is rubbish!!)

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When I enlarged this pic a bit there's two pipes side by side (Hard to see!), My lad got me an app on my phone to check registrations, It was last MOT'd in 2102 which is around the time I sold it!

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I can't make out what the badge on the back says!!

 

 

John :)

Twin pipes so I'm going for a 325 or possibly a 328. 

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And that possibly would fit with head gasket issues. The four cylinder engines of that era were pretty bullet proof it was mostly the sixes that had head gasket problems. 

I had an E36 323 Coupe about the same age an "R" plate with the detuned 2.5 six and in my ownership it was faultless, never spent a penny on it other than petrol and it never missed a beat. 

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Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin..

complete rusting crap bucket! Cost thousands in carburettor rebuild, body work repair, new exhaust etc etc. Broke down 3 times!

sold it to a dodgy Eastern European toe rag who tried to chiv me even at at a bargain (Never Again!)

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17 hours ago, BondandBigM said:

Twin pipes so I'm going for a 325 or possibly a 328. 

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And that possibly would fit with head gasket issues. The four cylinder engines of that era were pretty bullet proof it was mostly the sixes that had head gasket problems. 

I had an E36 323 Coupe about the same age an "R" plate with the detuned 2.5 six and in my ownership it was faultless, never spent a penny on it other than petrol and it never missed a beat. 

Hi Bond

It was definitely a four cylinder and not a six!, I looked it up on the vehicle smart app on my phone, It says- First registered 05 jan 1996, Cylinder capacity 1796cc, It says nothing in the 'Model' box though :( (It was definitely a 318 :thumbsup: )

EDIT- It could be that someone stuck one of those twin pipes that you can buy from the accessory shops to the exhaust, I can't remember for the life of me, Can't find any more pics of it either!

 

John :)

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M43 8v lump (E36 318iS used the M44). Did indeed have a penchant for the odd head gasket (often down to the plastic coolant pipe on the back of the head) but that was a pretty simple job. Generally very very solid indeed, without the issues of the M40 (toblerone camshafts) or M42 (profile gasket), and better not to even mention the 'N' 4-pots that followed.

 

This thread is very sad btw!

 

 

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20 hours ago, ziggy1024 said:

M43 8v lump (E36 318iS used the M44). Did indeed have a penchant for the odd head gasket (often down to the plastic coolant pipe on the back of the head) but that was a pretty simple job. Generally very very solid indeed, without the issues of the M40 (toblerone camshafts) or M42 (profile gasket), and better not to even mention the 'N' 4-pots that followed.

 

This thread is very sad btw!

 

 

the early e24 when the 635 came out and used the 633 block bored to 3.5 had overbore problems didn't it and the compression was high so they blew head gaskets, seems a fairly common theme with bmw's. I guess thats why Mercedes always keep their bhp figures relatively low. In terms of engines and gearboxes the 3 pointed star do seem to be pretty reliable. BMW do seem to push things a bit, but always seem to have more sparkle. From 316i right through to M5. 

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my first car was a 1980 635 identical to that in kashmir gold and it blew the head gasket. I stripped it myself whilst on summer hols from uni. Took me two weeks to get it all off and all the valves and springs and cam out, it was prolonged due to the head having warped and i had to have it skimmed. The end cam lobe was worn too and it used to tap like an old diesel. I should have had it reground at the same time. I think a slightly blocked radiator and the fact the car was prone to blowing water hoses hastened the downfall of the head gasket. 

I reground all the valves and lined them up with the springs on the bench in the fitters shop where i was working during my hols and someone came in and mixed them up! Took me ages to match them all up again. 

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33 minutes ago, ziggy1024 said:

M30s in general are superb, but yes I've had the head off mine too!

the m57 in my 330d seemed a very strong unit it was on nearly 200k and sweet as a nut, but i guess diesels dont suffer the same? The early e36 325i saloon i had had the forged block apparently and when i came to sell it it seemed to make it much more desirable than the slightly later 325i. Mine was an L reg. Not something i really know anything about but people seemed to be after the engine for racing and track cars. 

heres my old 325, the thing that finished it off according to the garage i used to use was the output shafts being rusted solid into the back axle making wheel bearing replacement impossible, ive since had reason to doubt that. I only paid 500 for it and sold it for 1000 after spending 500 on new tyres brakes and exhaust. If it hadnt been for the back axle problems id have kept it!

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